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Poker Question

Ker

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I was playing in a tournement this week and i want to get your take on the what took place. It was the first hand and i was dealt two queens and i made a raise, and two other players called my bet. The action got to the next player who right away pointed to the floor where there was a jack and a king on the ground. Right away the dealer called over the floor and he had the dealer count down the stub, he found out that the deck was short and the floor said it was a misdeal. I tryed to explain that since there was action on the hand it coulden't be a misdeal and that the two cards should be show and the hand be played out, but he would not change his mind. Now i deal poker for a living and i think i was right in asking the hand to be played out, but was he right in any way to call it a fouled hand.
 
??? Yes I agree with you 100% !! the hand must be played, and the 2 cards exposed be show. If 2 or more players acted ( and in your situation...there is) it's called a "significant action" the hand continues.

Where did you play that tournament? I hope this didn't bother you too much and I hope you did good in the tournament.
 
Somewhere in the poker room should be a copy of the rules that they enforce.

Probably, in those rules, you are right, and that hand should have been played. (At least in a popular complete rule set make by Bob Ciaffone, although there is room for interpretation.) The floor person was just ruling off the cuff, and there's not really anything to be done, except in the future ask a floor person to consult the poker rooms rules before coming to some ruling that he just makes up.

However, that being said, he may still make something up in order to avoid overly delaying the game, and probably somewhere either in that same set of rules or on the wall it says: "Decisions made by floor personnel are final."
 
PokerKing said:
??? Yes I agree with you 100% !! the hand must be played, and the 2 cards exposed be show. If 2 or more players acted ( and in your situation...there is) it's called a "significant action" the hand continues.

Where did you play that tournament? I hope this didn't bother you too much and I hope you did good in the tournament.
I know i was right, I just wanted to get other views on it. I think its sad that all poker rooms have to many of there own rules. Some rules are the same in all casinos, but they also have many rules that they use in different ways. This tourney was at jokers wild, i lost because i was so upset.
 
Was a miss-deal....The correct decision was made....

The reason is that at the time the other 2 players called they had no idea that the 2 cards were on the floor....
This is unfair to them as there is no way of knowing if you made your raise b4 or after YOU knew the cards were on the floor...

Other reason is because 2 cards turned face up is an automatic miss-deal....No exceptions, never ever....

If only one card is turned face up during the deal then the hand continues...

Hope this helps :)
 
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