• Guest, Forum Rules - Please Read

    We keep things simple so everyone can enjoy our community:

    • Be respectful - Treat all members with courtesy and respect
    • No spam - Quality contributions only, no repetitive or promotional spam
    • Betting site owners welcome - You may advertise your site in the Betting Picks or Personal Threads sections (minimum 3 posts required before posting links)
    • Stay on topic - Keep discussions relevant to the forum section you're in

    Violating these rules may result in warnings or account suspension. Let's keep our community friendly and helpful!

Do Rim Protectors Affect NBA Betting Lines More Than Perimeter Defenders?

Betting Forum

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 11, 2008
Messages
1,493
Reaction score
184
Points
63
Rim Protectors vs Perimeter Defenders in basketball .webp
Elite rim protectors move betting lines 2-4 points when they're out. Elite perimeter defenders barely move the line 1-2 points. The market values paint protection over perimeter defense because rim deterrence affects every possession, not just matchup-specific ones.

This guide is for NBA bettors who need to understand which defensive absences actually matter for line movement, and why losing your center impacts spreads and totals more than losing your best wing defender.

The conventional wisdom says defense is defense - if you lose an All-Defense caliber player, it hurts the same regardless of position. That's wrong. When Rudy Gobert sits, the Jazz used to see their line move 3-4 points. When Jrue Holiday sat in Milwaukee, the line barely moved 1.5 points even though both were elite defenders. The market knows rim protection is more valuable than perimeter defense.

People on the forum argue about this constantly. "Marcus Smart is First Team All-Defense, why doesn't the line move when he's out?" Because Smart guards one player. Gobert affects every single drive, every cut to the basket, every pick and roll. Smart's impact is limited to who he's matched up with. Gobert's impact is structural - he changes how the entire offense approaches the paint.

Why Rim Protection Affects Every Possession​

Elite rim protectors create deterrence that doesn't show up in box scores. Players see Gobert at the rim and don't even attempt the drive. They pull up for a contested mid-range instead of attacking. The rim protector gets credit for zero blocks on that possession but he just forced a worse shot.

This deterrence effect is worth 4-6 points per 100 possessions for elite rim protectors. Teams score significantly less efficiently at the rim when a Gobert or Embiid or peak Dwight Howard is protecting it. When that player sits, offenses attack the rim freely. Layup percentage jumps. Free throw attempts increase. The backup center can't provide the same deterrence even if he tries.

Perimeter defenders don't create the same league-wide deterrence. Yes, an elite perimeter defender makes one offensive player's life harder. But the offense can just attack someone else. If Jrue Holiday is locking up the opponent's best guard, they run more actions through their second or third option. The defensive impact is real but it's matchup-specific, not systemic.

The math is simple. A rim protector affects 30-40 possessions per game because every drive decision considers whether he's at the rim. A perimeter defender affects maybe 15-20 possessions where he's directly defending the ball handler. The rim protector's impact touches twice as many possessions.

How the Market Prices Rim Protector Absences​

When Embiid sits, the 76ers line moves 3-4 points immediately. Part of that is his offensive value, but a significant portion is defensive. The team's defensive rating drops 8-10 points per 100 possessions without him. That's measurable, predictable, and the market prices it aggressively.

When Gobert was in Utah, his absence moved the line 3 points or more. Now in Minnesota, his absence moves the line 2-3 points because the roster around him is different. But the principle holds - elite rim protectors command significant line movement because their defensive impact is irreplaceable.

Brook Lopez in Milwaukee moves the line 2-3 points. He's not as elite as Gobert or Embiid but he's still an excellent rim protector. The Bucks' drop coverage defense falls apart without him. The market knows this and adjusts accordingly.

The backup center matters for how much the line moves. If the backup is competent - not elite, just competent - the line movement is 2-2.5 points. If the backup is terrible, the line moves 3-4 points because the drop-off is catastrophic. Check who's backing up your rim protector before betting these games.

Why Perimeter Defenders Don't Move Lines As Much​

Elite perimeter defenders like Jrue Holiday, Marcus Smart, or Alex Caruso move lines 1-2 points maximum when they're out. This seems wrong - they're All-Defense players, why is the impact so small? Because their impact is concentrated on one matchup and offenses can scheme around that.

If Jrue Holiday is out, yes, the opponent's best guard might have an easier night. But does that swing the game by 5 points? Usually not. The guard might score 4-5 more points, but that's spread across 30+ possessions. It's not a dramatic per-possession impact like losing a rim protector.

The offense can also adjust their approach. If the elite perimeter defender is in, they avoid him. If he's out, they attack more, but they were already attacking enough to generate offense. The marginal value of his absence isn't as large as it seems because the offense wasn't completely shut down when he was in.

Perimeter defense is also more replaceable than rim protection. If your elite wing defender is out, you can put a different competent defender on the opponent's best player. The drop-off is noticeable but not catastrophic. Rim protection doesn't work that way - you either have a 7-footer who can protect the rim or you don't. The skill set is rarer and harder to replace.

Paint Scoring Changes Without Rim Protection​

When elite rim protectors sit, opponent scoring at the rim jumps 8-12%. Layup attempts increase because drivers aren't deterred. Conversion rate increases because there's no elite shot blocker. Free throw attempts increase because drivers are getting to the rim more and drawing fouls.

This creates systematic over opportunities when rim protectors are out. If the total is set based on season averages and the elite rim protector is sitting, the opponent's offensive efficiency should be 3-4 points higher just from paint scoring. The market adjusts for this somewhat but not always perfectly.

Check the opponent's offensive style before betting these overs. If the opponent is a rim-attacking team - Giannis, Luka, LeBron - the absence of an elite rim protector is a massive advantage. They'll attack the rim relentlessly and the backup center can't stop them. These games often fly over.

If the opponent is a perimeter-oriented team that doesn't attack the rim much anyway, the rim protector absence matters less. Warriors without a rim protector to face might just shoot more threes. They weren't trying to score at the rim in the first place. The impact is smaller.

Drop Coverage Defense Without the Anchor​

Teams that play drop coverage rely entirely on their rim protector. The entire defensive scheme is built around having an elite big man drop back and protect the paint on pick and rolls. When that player sits, the scheme doesn't work.

The backup center drops back the same way but he can't deter shots like the starter. Opposing guards get comfortable pull-ups from 15 feet. Drivers still attack knowing the backup can't challenge effectively. The scheme structure is the same but the execution collapses.

Teams sometimes switch to different defensive schemes when their rim protector is out. They can't play drop coverage with a backup who can't protect the rim, so they switch more or play higher on ball screens. This adjustment takes time and often doesn't work as well as their normal scheme. First games without the rim protector are particularly vulnerable.

Three-Point Shooting Changes With and Without Perimeter Defense​

Elite perimeter defenders force tougher three-point shots. They close out harder, they fight over screens better, they contest more effectively. Their matchup shoots 3-4% worse from three when the elite defender is on them.

But that impact is limited to their matchup. If an elite wing defender is guarding the opponent's best shooter, that shooter struggles. But the opponent has four other players who can shoot threes. The overall team three-point percentage doesn't drop that much because the other four shooters are unaffected.

When elite perimeter defenders sit, the opponent's best shooter might go from 35% to 39% from three. That's 4% on maybe 8 attempts, so roughly 0.3 points per attempt x 8 attempts = 2.4 extra points. That's real value but it's not game-breaking. The total might move half a point based on this.

Compare this to rim protection impact. When the rim protector sits, the entire team's paint defense collapses. We're talking 10+ extra points per game from increased paint scoring across all opponent players, not just one matchup. The scope is completely different.

Matchup-Specific Perimeter Defense Value​

Perimeter defenders do provide huge value in specific matchups. If you're facing Steph Curry and you have an elite Curry defender, that's worth 3-4 points by itself. Taking Curry from 45% true shooting to 55% true shooting on 25 possessions is massive.

The problem for betting is these matchup-specific impacts are harder to predict and the market prices them quickly. If Marcus Smart is guarding Trae Young and the market knows this, the line has already adjusted. You're not finding value just because Smart is playing - the market knows he'll make Young's life harder.

When the elite perimeter defender is OUT and he was supposed to guard a star player, that's when you might find value. The market adjusts for the defender being out generally, but maybe not for the specific matchup impact. If Smart was supposed to guard Young and he's suddenly out, Young might go off for 40 instead of 25. That 15-point swing affects the spread and total.

Check who was supposed to guard whom before betting on perimeter defender absences. If the defender normally guards someone irrelevant, his absence doesn't matter. If he normally guards the opponent's best player, his absence matters significantly.

How Offenses Attack Without Rim Protection​

When offenses know there's no elite rim protector, they attack the paint immediately and relentlessly. First quarter possessions become drives to the basket. Pick and rolls become layup attempts instead of mid-range pull-ups. The entire offensive strategy shifts to exploiting the paint.

This shows up in possession-by-possession data. With elite rim protectors in, teams attempt 35-40% of their shots at the rim. Without elite rim protectors, that jumps to 45-50%. The offense completely changes its shot selection to take advantage of the vulnerability.

Live betting opportunities exist when you recognize this shift before the market does. First quarter of a game where the rim protector just sat, if the offense is attacking the paint and succeeding, the live total might not have adjusted enough. The game could go significantly over if this paint attack continues all game.

Some offenses are too rigid to adjust mid-game. They run their normal actions regardless of defensive personnel. These teams don't benefit as much from opponent rim protectors being out because they don't change their approach. Check whether the opponent's offense is adaptable or rigid before betting on rim protector absence impacting them.

Backup Quality and Line Movement​

The backup center's skill level determines how much the line moves when the starter sits. If the backup is a legitimate NBA rotation player who can protect the rim reasonably well, the line might only move 1.5-2 points. If the backup is unplayable, the line moves 3-4 points.

Some teams have good backup centers who provide 70-80% of the starter's rim protection. Nuggets with backup centers behind Jokic, Celtics with their center depth - these teams don't collapse defensively when the starter sits. The line movement is modest because the backup is competent.

Other teams have terrible backup centers. When the starter sits, they're playing someone who shouldn't be on the court. These backups can't protect the rim at all. The defensive scheme breaks down completely. The line should move 4+ points but sometimes the market underprices how bad the backup actually is.

Check backup center minutes and performance before betting these games. If the backup has played significant minutes this season and the team's defensive rating with him on the court is only 3-4 points worse than with the starter, the line movement is probably correct. If the backup barely plays and when he does the defense collapses, there might be value betting against that team.

Perimeter Defenders and Offensive Superstars​

The one situation where perimeter defenders create huge line movement is when they're defending generational offensive players. Kawhi Leonard defending LeBron in the 2014 Finals, Jrue Holiday defending Damian Lillard - these matchups are worth 3-4 points by themselves.

When an elite perimeter defender who normally guards a superstar is out, the line should move significantly. The superstar goes from having a tough night to potentially exploding for 40+. This affects both spread and total. The market prices this to some degree but not always perfectly.

The problem is identifying which perimeter defender matchups actually matter this much. Most perimeter defender matchups are worth 1-2 points maximum. Only elite defenders against elite offensive players create bigger swings. Don't overvalue perimeter defender absences against average offensive players.

Check historical head-to-head data. If the elite defender has consistently held the opponent's star to low scoring in previous matchups, his absence might be underpriced. If the star has scored well even with the elite defender on him, the absence doesn't matter as much.

How to Bet Rim Protector Absences​

When elite rim protectors are out, bet overs on opponents who attack the rim. Giannis facing a backup center is an auto-over consideration. Luka against no rim protection is an over look. The paint will be wide open all game.

Bet against the team missing their rim protector if the opponent is built to exploit it. A rim-attacking team facing a team without rim protection should dominate the paint. The spread might not fully account for how much paint scoring increases.

Avoid betting overs if the opponent doesn't attack the rim much anyway. Warriors without an elite rim protector to face might not benefit because they're shooting threes. The Nuggets without a rim protector to face might not care because Jokic is posting up anyway. Match the opponent's offensive style to the defensive absence.

Player props on drivers and cutters spike when rim protectors are out. If a player normally gets 8 layup attempts per game but faces no rim protection tonight, his attempts might jump to 12. His scoring prop might not have adjusted enough. This is especially true for backup guards who might get more opportunity with the gameplan shifting to paint attack.

How to Bet Perimeter Defender Absences​

When elite perimeter defenders are out, bet on the specific player they usually guard. If Jrue Holiday is out and he normally guards Trae Young, bet Young's points over. The matchup advantage is real even if it doesn't affect the overall line much.

Don't automatically bet overs on team totals when perimeter defenders are out. The impact is localized to one matchup. The team total might move 1 point but that's probably already priced. You need specific matchup edges, not general "defense is worse" assumptions.

Check if the team has secondary perimeter defenders who can step up. If Marcus Smart is out but Derrick White can defend reasonably well, the impact is minimal. If Smart is out and there's nobody else who can guard at a high level, the impact is larger.

Perimeter defender absences matter more in playoff games or high-stakes regular season games where the opponent's star will be involved in every possession. In random regular season games where load management is happening and stars sit anyway, perimeter defender absences don't matter as much.

The Exception: Switchable Defensive Bigs​

Modern switchable bigs who can defend the perimeter and protect the rim are the most valuable defensive players for betting purposes. Bam Adebayo, Anthony Davis, Jaren Jackson Jr - these players provide rim protection AND perimeter defense.

When these players sit, the line should move 3-4 points because they're providing both types of defensive value. The team loses rim protection AND loses the ability to switch everything on the perimeter. The defensive scheme completely breaks down.

The market sometimes underprices these absences because it's hard to quantify "switchable big" value. The player might not lead the league in blocks, so he's not seen as an elite rim protector. He might not lead in steals, so he's not seen as an elite perimeter defender. But he does both at high levels and that combination is irreplaceable.

Check whether the team's defensive scheme relies on switching. If they switch everything and their best switching big is out, the scheme can't work anymore. They'll go to drop coverage or other schemes they're not as good at. This creates betting opportunities because the scheme disruption is worse than just losing one defender.

Late-Season and Playoff Implications​

Late in the season when teams rest players, rim protector absences create huge opportunities. Teams rest their starting center and suddenly they have no rim protection against playoff-caliber offenses. These games often go way over because the paint scoring explodes.

Playoff games shrink rotations and elite defenders play more minutes. The impact of elite perimeter defenders actually increases in the playoffs because they're on the court 40+ minutes and the offense can't rest by attacking someone else. But rim protectors still matter more because the defensive scheme dependency doesn't change.

Teams adjust defensive schemes in the playoffs to hide rim protection weaknesses or perimeter defense weaknesses. If a team doesn't have an elite rim protector, they might switch more or play zone more often. These adjustments take games to figure out. First playoff games for teams with defensive weaknesses are particularly vulnerable.

Common Mistakes Betting Defender Absences​

Overvaluing perimeter defender absences when the opponent's offense isn't built around the player that defender guards. If the elite defender is out but the opponent runs team offense where the ball moves constantly, his absence doesn't matter that much. The offense wasn't relying on one player anyway.

Undervaluing rim protector absences when the backup is terrible. The market might move the line 2 points for the rim protector absence, but if the backup is genuinely unplayable and gets targeted relentlessly, the actual impact is 4-5 points. This is where sharp money finds value.

Betting overs automatically when defenders are out without checking the opponent's offensive style. If a perimeter defender is out but the opponent's best player is a big man, it doesn't matter. If a rim protector is out but the opponent shoots 45 threes per game, the impact is smaller than expected.

Ignoring scheme dependencies. Some teams' defensive schemes can survive rim protector absences because they don't rely on drop coverage. Other teams completely fall apart. The scheme matters as much as the individual defender's absence.

FAQ​

Why do rim protectors move betting lines more than perimeter defenders?
Because rim protectors affect every possession through deterrence - drivers see them at the rim and don't even attempt shots, forcing worse alternatives. Perimeter defenders only impact the 15-20 possessions where they directly guard the ball. Elite rim protectors like Embiid or Gobert change 30-40 possessions per game. When they sit, opponent scoring at the rim jumps 8-12% and free throw attempts spike. The market values this systemic impact at 2-4 points versus 1-2 points for perimeter defenders.

Should I automatically bet overs when rim protectors are out?
Not automatically - it depends on the opponent's offensive style. If they attack the rim (Giannis, Luka, LeBron-led teams), the rim protector absence creates huge over value. If they're perimeter-oriented (Warriors, some Houston iterations), they weren't attacking the rim anyway so the absence matters less. Also check backup quality - if the backup center is competent, the line movement might be accurate. Only bet overs when rim-attacking offenses face teams missing rim protection with terrible backups.

Which defensive absences are most underpriced by the market?
Switchable bigs like Bam Adebayo or Anthony Davis provide both rim protection and perimeter versatility. When they sit, teams lose rim protection AND the ability to switch everything, destroying the entire defensive scheme. The market sometimes underprices this at 2-3 points when the actual impact is 4+ points. Also underpriced: rim protector absences against specific rim-attacking offenses, and elite perimeter defenders missing against generational scorers they normally shut down.
 
Back
Top