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This post is based on my opinion but also is a fact. In this post, I'll discuss the 15 year old Messi-Ronaldo rivalry. Messi for me is the greatest of all time and ill tell you why. It was started by the media and will be ended by Messi. As he won the Copa America The debate was edging closer to its end, but for me, it ended,5-6 years ago. Yes, I'm a Messi fan. I respect both equally, forever will. Messi is a playmaker, Ronaldo is a scoring machine. As stats say, Messi is a better goalscorer than Ronaldo, better free-kick taker, better playmaker, better assister, etc... On the other side, Ronaldo is a better header, better penalty taker, can save his team better on the big occasions than Messi, etc... They are great in their own ways, but whoever watches them equally on the field, they already know whos better, not just the stats. When Messi won the ballon dor, Ronaldo just couldn't get over it, as he wrote "factors" on a post that reviewed Messi's win as an "undeserved" win, but I still got the respect equal. As a domestic success, Messis got more. He has more titles than Ronaldo, more Ballondor's, more golden boots, Fifa Best player awards, etc... There's much more of a discussion about this, but if we sum it up, Messi is the goat. The ones who watch them both equally will agree with me. But Ronaldo is also one of the best ever.
 
Everygame
It's a difficult question! It would be interesting to see the opposite arguments 🧐
 
Messi's worth fell once he reached PSG. I have never seen him so down on every aspect.
 
Messi is better football player.
Ronaldo is by far better athlete and human being.

Their football results are both effective af, no need to debate who reached this and this record, so when talking about effectiveness on the pitch they could be pretty equal but in different ways. Yet I admit Messi is better football player thanks to his style and magnetic dribbling skills.

Look at your post OP, you try to be fair and I respect your text, but it's biased anyways as you mentioned only facts that play for Messi's overall display. Where tf is Champions League, career goals record, international goals record ... oooof! No, those are not small things 🤭

In the end, I won't answer the question about who is the GOAT because I don't know 🙌 and also I won't discuss that "better human being" as it could go wrong, it always does 😅 people need to differ words like arrogance - mindset - character etc. but just a few unbiased are able to.
 
P.S.: This picture is the best graphic to show who's better, they both run the show! 👏 What a rivalry!
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ken said:
Messi's worth fell once he reached PSG. I have never seen him so down on every aspect.
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Hm, I think, you're right. Even despite his 7th Ballon d'Or award
Maybe it's a long-drawn adaptation or time spares no one?
 
Eva said:
Hm, I think, you're right. Even despite his 7th Ballon d'Or award
Maybe it's a long-drawn adaptation or time spares no one?
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In my opinion, he is not comfortable at all at PSG compared to when he was at Barça.
And even expressed his wish to go back.
He still can play, just he is not where he can show his real potential
 
Giresse said:
In my opinion, he is not comfortable at all at PSG compared to when he was at Barça.
And even expressed his wish to go back.
He still can play, just he is not where he can show his real potential
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Yeah, even for one of the greatest players, being in a proper team is of crucial importance 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
 
Messi's worth fell once he reached PSG. I have never seen him so down on every aspect.
 
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